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(I was going to link to the article, but I can't seem to find the same version that's in the paper. here is a version of it.)
This is followed by four pages of sycophantic coverage of Ken Ham's monstrosity, with only passing mention given to the ideas of "science", "reason" and "evidence".
Of course, I had to do something to fix this. So here's my improved version of the article:
May 20 2007, 22:38:45 UTC 5 years ago
But I didn't. Don't want to start a flame war. Or do I? *sigh*
I just have so very little patience with this sort of shit. It costs us - homeschoolers - a lot of credibility. Makes me nuts. I may go and reply to her about a group outing when I'm calmer, but my knee jerk reaction is to ask "Did your mother take drugs to make you that stupid, or were you dropped on your head as an infant?"
Probably not a helpful comment. *sigh*
Please, though - be sure to write in to the paper and give them your opinion on what the cover should have said. They do print them, if they're articulate and not cursing.
May 21 2007, 23:41:57 UTC 5 years ago
You're right. That kind of attitude does make it more difficult for homeschoolers. I found one of the brochures from one of the groups that had a booth set up for the Ohio Virtual Academy event and had a good laugh over some of the curricula descriptions.
A piece of advice for interacting with museum staff and other science programs: let them know upfront that you accept evolution, though maybe in not so many words. Have one of the kids mention something blatantly Darwinian or referencing geologic time. You'll get a much better level of education from most instructors by doing that. While I know that most of the homeschoolers in Cincy aren't creationists, I still tend to come at the topic of evolution more slowly if I know that I'm interpreting to a group of homeschoolers. In fact, I'm fairly certain I've had run ins with some of the creationists on your lists. :p
Please, though - be sure to write in to the paper and give them your opinion on what the cover should have said. They do print them, if they're articulate and not cursing.
I'm working on an editorial right now. I was incredibly frustrated by the lack of science represented in Sunday's articles.
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May 20 2007, 22:42:09 UTC 5 years ago
But I kind of want to see this museum just to see what it has in it... if it's free. I am not paying for that.
It is pathetic that the Enquirer chose that headline though...
May 20 2007, 22:53:20 UTC 5 years ago
Borgman's cartoon about the Creationism museum. *g*
May 20 2007, 22:54:35 UTC 5 years ago
No, people did not walk with dinosaurs! Dinosaurs weren't on Noah's Ark!! Apart from the religious significance, think of the physics of fitting 2 of every dinosaur on a 300 cubit boat made of freaking wood!! Give me a break!
And I also love how that creation museum is in little bitty northern Kentucky but they're trying to attach themselves to the much more popular big city of Cincinnati.
May 20 2007, 23:07:06 UTC 5 years ago
So... we need to do a tour. My kids are all excited now to learn about evolution - more than the basics they know already, that is - so they can go to this place and play "Spot the Stupid." True wants to read more about it before we go so she can show you how much she knows. LOL!
What's your schedule like? Is there any way we could do a day trip? I'll email you too....
May 21 2007, 23:23:13 UTC 5 years ago
I want to go through it first before I'm comfortable taking anyone else through. Would they mind waiting a bit? It will give True some extra time to catch up. ;)
Would you like recommendations/lendings of some books that I think do a good job of explaining the basics of the theory? It would give her somewhere to start researching. And I have one that I think Liam would enjoy as well!
May 20 2007, 23:47:41 UTC 5 years ago
May 21 2007, 00:40:24 UTC 5 years ago
Also, has anyone considered that if there was a velociraptor on Noah's Ark? It would have eaten Noah.
I love you rewrite, though. *giggles*
May 21 2007, 23:27:06 UTC 5 years ago
Sadly, I've heard exactly that argument used.
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May 21 2007, 02:40:28 UTC 5 years ago
BTW, I'm back in Cincy:).
May 21 2007, 03:23:52 UTC 5 years ago
If they gave the Museum Center that kind of coverage, maybe it wouldn't have such financial difficulties.
Grrrrrr.
May 22 2007, 00:01:35 UTC 5 years ago
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May 21 2007, 04:48:33 UTC 5 years ago
Would the Enquirer run an equally large, front page article reading "Creationist Museum Struck by Lightning, Burns to the Ground"?
May 22 2007, 00:02:22 UTC 5 years ago
May 21 2007, 14:14:39 UTC 5 years ago
Oh for Godde's sake! (Literally.) And I suppose these people avoid cotton-polyester blends and shellfish, keep slaves, and believe that intercourse constitutes marriage? I suppose they all give all they own to the poor, take up crosses, and follow Jesus in a literal fashion? I suppose they would subject disobedient children to death? That if their right eye offends them, they cut it out?
Every single person on earth who calls him or herself a Christian picks and chooses which parts of the Bible to believe literally, and which allegorically. Every single one. To claim otherwise is bloody-minded hypocrisy and wilful blindness.
May 30 2007, 02:34:21 UTC 4 years ago
May 22 2007, 19:17:44 UTC 5 years ago
That's one thing I remember about all the history I was taught in school.... they start with one thing, then next year say "Well, that wasn't entirely the truth, but THIS is..." then the next year, the same thing over again...
I'd like to get the "college" version of things into them, so they don't waste all the time I did trying to get over the crap they taught in lower grades.
May 30 2007, 02:32:31 UTC 4 years ago
Anonymous
May 28 2007, 05:55:02 UTC 5 years ago
Top 10 Reasons Why the Universe, Sun, Earth and Life Are Not 6000 Years Old
A five-page PDF suitable for printing out and passing out.http://www.defconamerica.org/creationmus
May 30 2007, 02:29:27 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Top 10 Reasons Why the Universe, Sun, Earth and Life Are Not 6000 Years Old
Already printed that one out. Lawrence Krauss's editorial in the Enquirer is also worth reading, if it's online. His last line, about how any school who tries to use public funds to take a field trip there should be sued, is well worth keeping in mind.May 29 2007, 21:56:52 UTC 4 years ago
Image leeching
Hope you don't mind me using your image (at e-st.net/blog) (i linked it to here, so you shouldn't :) I won't if you don't allow that kind of thing though.Keep spreading the truth!
May 30 2007, 02:28:06 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Image leeching
Not a problem! Glad you liked it!May 29 2007, 22:53:47 UTC 4 years ago
I used to live in Cincinnati, and was a volunteer in the Museum of Natural History and Science at CMC. I only worked in the paleontology lab briefly, but spent a lot of time guiding people through the Cave, Ice Age, and Dinosaur halls. Unsurprisingly, we had visits from creationists-- including those specifically affiliated with AiG-- quite frequently. They passed out flyers explaining their "origins alternatives" and told my coworkers that they were going to hell. Interestingly, there was a lot of disparity in how our museum supervisors told us to respond. While the Youth Program directors encouraged us to politely turn the conversation away from evolution, my supervisor at the paleontology lab told me to as bluntly and flatly disagree with the creationists as I liked. Those were always entertaining arguments.
I've since moved to Portland, Oregon for college, where I find there are a lot fewer rabid lunatics in general circulation. I won't be visiting Cincinnati again until December, but when I do, hopefully there will be an opportunity to visit the Creation Museum and pass out a few flyers.
Good luck staving off the creationist hordes.
May 30 2007, 02:27:37 UTC 4 years ago
Anyway, it's nice to hear from you, and good to know that you're still keeping up the fight against the nujobs!
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